Discussion:
Is the Jena user list blocking critical questions?
Niels Andersen
2016-11-13 20:37:04 UTC
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Dear Jena user list,

I asked a critical question about SPARQL and got this response:


This sender failed our fraud detection checks and may not be who they appear to be. Learn about spoofing at http://aka.ms/LearnAboutSpoofing


I looked through the definition of spoofing, there is nothing that I am doing that matches it. The exception may be that I am using "Urgent wording in a polite and accommodating tone".

Why is the user list blocking my account?

Best regards,
NIels
Andy Seaborne
2016-11-13 21:03:40 UTC
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It isn't clear that the blocking is from the list.

It could be from various places on the route or even downstream from a
list subscribers email provider.

The list archive can be viewed at:

https://lists.apache.org/list.html?***@jena.apache.org

There is no human involved, or other judgement process, in moderating
messages if you are subscribed.

However, this message was routed via:

outbound.protection.outlook.com

which added a DKIM-Signature before the email reached Apache.

Andy
Post by Niels Andersen
Dear Jena user list,
This sender failed our fraud detection checks and may not be who they appear to be. Learn about spoofing at http://aka.ms/LearnAboutSpoofing
I looked through the definition of spoofing, there is nothing that I am doing that matches it. The exception may be that I am using "Urgent wording in a polite and accommodating tone".
Why is the user list blocking my account?
Best regards,
NIels
Niels Andersen
2016-11-13 23:18:05 UTC
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Andy,

Thanks for the answer.

I now see what is happening.

The email was marked coming back to me, not stopped by the user group list. Sorry for the confusion.

Is it possible to delete the almost-duplicate emails in the thread to avoid confusing the reader?

Best regards,
Niels

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Seaborne [mailto:***@apache.org]
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 13:04
To: ***@jena.apache.org
Cc: Niels Andersen <***@thinkiq.com>
Subject: Re: Is the Jena user list blocking critical questions?

It isn't clear that the blocking is from the list.

It could be from various places on the route or even downstream from a list subscribers email provider.

The list archive can be viewed at:

https://lists.apache.org/list.html?***@jena.apache.org

There is no human involved, or other judgement process, in moderating messages if you are subscribed.

However, this message was routed via:

outbound.protection.outlook.com

which added a DKIM-Signature before the email reached Apache.

Andy
Post by Niels Andersen
Dear Jena user list,
This sender failed our fraud detection checks and may not be who they
appear to be. Learn about spoofing at http://aka.ms/LearnAboutSpoofing
I looked through the definition of spoofing, there is nothing that I am doing that matches it. The exception may be that I am using "Urgent wording in a polite and accommodating tone".
Why is the user list blocking my account?
Best regards,
NIels
Andy Seaborne
2016-11-14 09:13:37 UTC
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Post by Niels Andersen
Andy,
Thanks for the answer.
I now see what is happening.
The email was marked coming back to me, not stopped by the user group list. Sorry for the confusion.
Is it possible to delete the almost-duplicate emails in the thread to avoid confusing the reader?
No. We do not edit the archive.

Andy
Post by Niels Andersen
Best regards,
Niels
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 13:04
Subject: Re: Is the Jena user list blocking critical questions?
It isn't clear that the blocking is from the list.
It could be from various places on the route or even downstream from a list subscribers email provider.
There is no human involved, or other judgement process, in moderating messages if you are subscribed.
outbound.protection.outlook.com
which added a DKIM-Signature before the email reached Apache.
Andy
Post by Niels Andersen
Dear Jena user list,
This sender failed our fraud detection checks and may not be who they
appear to be. Learn about spoofing at http://aka.ms/LearnAboutSpoofing
I looked through the definition of spoofing, there is nothing that I am doing that matches it. The exception may be that I am using "Urgent wording in a polite and accommodating tone".
Why is the user list blocking my account?
Best regards,
NIels
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